Welcome to the Holistic Politics Blog

I have finally done it. After 7 years I have given in to modernity and set up a blog on this site. That said, do keep an eye on the main site. I am still updating the static articles, and that is the true home of the more timeless content.

I have started this blog to:

  • Post drafts of future articles and updates of older articles.
  • Provide a place for readers’ comment on the static articles (TBR).
  • Comment on timely matters, sites I have found interesting, etc.
  • Provide an RSS of updates to the main site

Who knows? Maybe after using WordPress enough, I’ll give in and use a CMS for the rest of the site. My current system of editing in Microsoft Word, extracting with a ruby script, tidying up with tidy, and ftp’ing to the server is a bit old fashioned…

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  1. Since this seems like a good place to ask a random question:

    You never really explained your views on heaven. I do not think your views on hell are accurate, however I will not refute them until I understand where you are coming from about heaven.

    You stated

    “Belief is only the beginning” is this referring to this life or a different life?


    You may not spend long in heaven once you get there? How do you come to that conclusion? And what happens after heaven?

  2. Those who are in the first resurrection form the government when Jesus rules for a thousand years on earth. After the thousand year reign we have a second resurrection of everyone else, Judgment Day, a new heaven and earth, and the heavenly city coming down from heaven to be on the new earth. See the last couple chapters of Revelations.

    Did you see the article “Who will go to Heaven?” at http://www.holisticpolitics.org/NarrowPath/Heaven.php ? See also “Crowns for the Saints.”

  3. I think I did, but I just read it again.

    So, according to your article, what happens to the Christians who fail?

  4. Depends on the degree of failure, I suppose. But given the number of fear and trembling references in the Bible, I think it is safe to say that Christians are going to have it tougher than non Christians for the same offense — at least for those offenses committed after conversion.

    Jesus says as much as he repeatedly raked the Pharisees over the coals. But he also mentioned how to earn forgiveness. A slack Christian who gives others a pass is in better shape than one who sets a high standard for others. This is a damn good reason for Christians to be borderline libertarians on social issues. (The word damn is appropriate here!) The standards for admission to a Christian congregation should be considerably higher than the standards for being a free citizen of the U.S.

    I say borderline. I don’t have the right to forgive a sin against another person. That’s their choice. It’s fairly safe to say that an unborn child is below the age of consent, so I do think abortion should be punished in order to protect the innocent.

  5. I agree with libertarianism as a philosophy, and think a theocratic state would do us no good at all. I do think some of the things that libertarians support are morally wrong but should legally be allowed.

    As for the Abortion issue though, its killing an innocent life, and just because a sin is forgiven doesn’t mean it should be unpunished, and a dead person can’t forgive anyway.

    I hate to sound like an ultra-social conservative when I’m not, but killing a baby in the womb or out of it is the same, only liberal propaganda confuses people into thinking otherwise. That was the law almost everywhere prior to Roe VS Wade, and in Exodus God puts a death sentence for killing a feotus. That law should be in effect today.

  6. I think we are on the same page here. In fact, you are inspiring me to move forward with a couple of abortion articles I have in the queue.

    However, I am not sure about your interpretation ofthe Exodus passage.

    Exo 21:22 If men strive and strike a pregnant woman, so that her child comes out, and there is no injury, he shall surely be punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him. And he shall pay as the judges say
    Exo 21:23 And if any injury occurs, then you shall give life for life,
    Exo 21:24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
    Exo 21:25 burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

    I think the “any injury” might refer to the woman. Given medical technology of the day, I think miscarriages triggered by injury were generally lethal to the baby. Consider that the followup passage says eye for eye and tooth for tooth. Premature babies don’t have teeth.

    I am not sure of this interpretation. I can read this as death penalty or killing an unborn child or fineable offense for killing an unborn child. I’d like to hear from a Talmudic scholar on the matter.

  7. I’m NOT a scholar, but I know its clear that it is talking about the baby. A couple of points on the matter:

    1. It says “If the baby comes OUT” (Translation, it lives) then a fine shall be paid.

    2. I am aware of the poorness of medical tech, however, I think God is smarter than to NOT know that. God is omnipotent, he was aware of the tech of his day. However, there would still be times.

    3. “Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot” is simply to make a point that whatever you do to someone else will be done to you. It was talking about the woman AND the baby. If you killed EITHER of them you got the death penalty.

  8. You may be right, but I still say you can read the passage both ways. I’d like to hear from someone well versed in Jewish traditions for their take.

    Anyway, I shall fight against legal abortion, but I’m not going to bomb any clinics next week. If the Servants of Moloch were sacrificing babies and the Supreme Court said it was OK, I would either be bombing Moloch temples, forming lynch mobs, or guilt tripping myself for doing neither out of cowardice. I’m not doing these things regarding abortion clinics, and neither are most pro-life Christians, so I still say that even most of the people who say it is the equivalent of murder do not really believe it. Principle of Revealed Preference and all that.

  9. I actually agree that most people don’t believe it in their heart of hearts.

    However, I do hold a radical position on the issue. I would never bomb an abortion clinic. Not only is it illegal (Which would be a semi-cowardly reason not to do it if it were right) it is counter-productive. It kills the mother, baby, and doctor.

    I heard awhile back about someone who killed an abortion doctor. While I think that since the killed child is going to heaven and so it isn’t logical to do it, I don’t think its wrong if its done DURING THE ABORTION, to save the life of the child. Any other time, its murder because its vigilante justice.

    Its true also that we do not truly believe that its a life, but God makes it clear that it is, so we have to believe it.

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